Should the Jedi Movement be Crushed? Metaphorically speaking of course.
March 31st 2008 04:06
Should the Jedi Movement be Crushed? Metaphorically speaking of course.
On the Australian census the number of people who declared themselves to be Jedi’s outnumber a numbered the number of people who declared themselves to be Atheist’s. In fact it out numbered the number of people Jedi adherents have increased in numbers beyond many religions that have been established in Australia. Like it or not the Jedi have woven themselves into the fabric of society with an exponential growth. One must ask the question as to whether this is good for society or are there any dark consequences.
There are many practices about the Jedi that may seem attractive, even peaceful to the outsider. Yet how does this compare to a closer examination of what they believe and how they behave? Furthermore since they are part of our society we must understand where they actually pose any dangers to the rest of us.
Let us look first at the belief system of the Jedi.
The Jedi are of the opinion that a mystical force called The Force has a grip over the entire Universe. This permeates through all living things and has a connection to everyone. The force is uneven and unequally distributed to the intelligent life. Darth Vader remarks how ‘the force is strong in this one...’ This indicates that the religion is trying to impose a societal norm where some Jedi are superior to other. Essentially it is flies in the face of the notion of equality and creates elitism. Those have more force become the elite Jedi Masters where as those that that have less are not even given a chance.
Jedi Ethics
The belief structure of any religion or ideology for that matter is what drives its ethical decision making. Working backward we can also see by the decisions Jedi’s make how the ethical processes work in the real world. Unlike most religions that advise against calling upon a higher power to intervene in every human affair the Jedi call upon the force all the time. ‘Use the force Luke, Use The Force.’ It is as if a person with superhuman supernatural powers needs reminding to use his powers or he will forget to. It could actually be argued that the Jedi need to keep reassuring them selves that they are superior to themselves.
The use of the force is also questionable because it is an unfair advantage in a fight. The rules of engagement are hopelessly unfair when every dispute a Jedi can use the force. You can see how they use it to control the minds of others. Obi Wan used The Force to control the mind of a storm trooper to let him pass a check point. The Force was also used to move objects in a way that break the laws of physics. Luke used it to make his light sabre fly to his hand; Yoda used it to lift an X-wing fighter out of the mud; Obi Won was able to use the Force to make robots fling across the room and break apart.
Jedi’s are essentially prone to violence and evil.
If there is any doubt over this fact then you need only ask why they have reason to carry a light sabre where ever they go. The Jedi receive this weapon even before they complete the training on how to use it. When Luke Skywalker rocks up to Obi Wan’s cave he is promptly given the buzzing death stick without so much as a ‘Be careful where you use that Luke.’ Later in the bar Obi Wan lobs off the hand of an alien in a bar room brawl. He does not wait to see if the creature needs help; he does not call for medical assistance; he does not show any empathy at for his victim. Instead he continues to negotiate with a local smuggler to escape the legitimate rule of law.
Luke’s training consists of little more than weapons training and speeches that demonize ‘The Dark Side’. The logic of the Jedi has no absolutes because as Obi Wan says: ‘Only the Dark Side Speaks in Absolutes.’ Yet at no stage are ever able to work out why the Dark Side is evil except for the fact that the Jedi say it is so. Despite all their fortune cookie philosophy the Jedi are nothing more than armed enforcers willing to kill fast, often and without conscience.
Jedi Logic is also crank logic.
So Luke is told that his father is dead and so is trained in the skill of the Jedi to kill Darth Vader who is accused of the crime. Pure and unscrupulous manipulation? I think so. Yet by the time that Luke learns the truth that his father was not murdered and that he had been tricked into this assassination attempt he is so confused by the Jedi indoctrination that he does not know who to believe. In steps Yoda to pleasantly manipulate this poor fellow and with help of the ‘hallucination of the Dead Obi Wan’ and send him out to kill again. What did this ‘ghost of Obi Wan’ tell him? It is all matter of viewpoint. What arrant nonsense. A clearer mind would have realized that he had be deceived and promptly remove the evil Yoda from circulation. Yet Luke is such a manipulated state that he goes off to obediently kill again.
What can we say about the Jedi that has not already been said.
They are a pest and disease that should be wiped from the collective psyche of the modern world. They are deceptive and evil. They do have dark practice whilst calling their detractors ‘The Dark Side.’ I would fitting if this remnant of a more violent age would just fade away but as the latest census indicates, they are growing in numbers.
The only we can ever hope to be free of this menace is to exclude the Jedi from society. Films, Images that promote Jedi propaganda should be destroyed. There icons in the form of action figures should be crushed and melted down. Then we can all look forward to a brighter future that is free of the constraints and influences of the Jedi.
He's a bad Jedi with even worse gramma. Mmmm!
On the Australian census the number of people who declared themselves to be Jedi’s outnumber a numbered the number of people who declared themselves to be Atheist’s. In fact it out numbered the number of people Jedi adherents have increased in numbers beyond many religions that have been established in Australia. Like it or not the Jedi have woven themselves into the fabric of society with an exponential growth. One must ask the question as to whether this is good for society or are there any dark consequences.
There are many practices about the Jedi that may seem attractive, even peaceful to the outsider. Yet how does this compare to a closer examination of what they believe and how they behave? Furthermore since they are part of our society we must understand where they actually pose any dangers to the rest of us.
Let us look first at the belief system of the Jedi.
The Jedi are of the opinion that a mystical force called The Force has a grip over the entire Universe. This permeates through all living things and has a connection to everyone. The force is uneven and unequally distributed to the intelligent life. Darth Vader remarks how ‘the force is strong in this one...’ This indicates that the religion is trying to impose a societal norm where some Jedi are superior to other. Essentially it is flies in the face of the notion of equality and creates elitism. Those have more force become the elite Jedi Masters where as those that that have less are not even given a chance.
Club Jedi - An elitest cult
Jedi Ethics
The belief structure of any religion or ideology for that matter is what drives its ethical decision making. Working backward we can also see by the decisions Jedi’s make how the ethical processes work in the real world. Unlike most religions that advise against calling upon a higher power to intervene in every human affair the Jedi call upon the force all the time. ‘Use the force Luke, Use The Force.’ It is as if a person with superhuman supernatural powers needs reminding to use his powers or he will forget to. It could actually be argued that the Jedi need to keep reassuring them selves that they are superior to themselves.
The use of the force is also questionable because it is an unfair advantage in a fight. The rules of engagement are hopelessly unfair when every dispute a Jedi can use the force. You can see how they use it to control the minds of others. Obi Wan used The Force to control the mind of a storm trooper to let him pass a check point. The Force was also used to move objects in a way that break the laws of physics. Luke used it to make his light sabre fly to his hand; Yoda used it to lift an X-wing fighter out of the mud; Obi Won was able to use the Force to make robots fling across the room and break apart.
Jedi’s are essentially prone to violence and evil.
If there is any doubt over this fact then you need only ask why they have reason to carry a light sabre where ever they go. The Jedi receive this weapon even before they complete the training on how to use it. When Luke Skywalker rocks up to Obi Wan’s cave he is promptly given the buzzing death stick without so much as a ‘Be careful where you use that Luke.’ Later in the bar Obi Wan lobs off the hand of an alien in a bar room brawl. He does not wait to see if the creature needs help; he does not call for medical assistance; he does not show any empathy at for his victim. Instead he continues to negotiate with a local smuggler to escape the legitimate rule of law.
Luke’s training consists of little more than weapons training and speeches that demonize ‘The Dark Side’. The logic of the Jedi has no absolutes because as Obi Wan says: ‘Only the Dark Side Speaks in Absolutes.’ Yet at no stage are ever able to work out why the Dark Side is evil except for the fact that the Jedi say it is so. Despite all their fortune cookie philosophy the Jedi are nothing more than armed enforcers willing to kill fast, often and without conscience.
Jedi Logic is also crank logic.
So Luke is told that his father is dead and so is trained in the skill of the Jedi to kill Darth Vader who is accused of the crime. Pure and unscrupulous manipulation? I think so. Yet by the time that Luke learns the truth that his father was not murdered and that he had been tricked into this assassination attempt he is so confused by the Jedi indoctrination that he does not know who to believe. In steps Yoda to pleasantly manipulate this poor fellow and with help of the ‘hallucination of the Dead Obi Wan’ and send him out to kill again. What did this ‘ghost of Obi Wan’ tell him? It is all matter of viewpoint. What arrant nonsense. A clearer mind would have realized that he had be deceived and promptly remove the evil Yoda from circulation. Yet Luke is such a manipulated state that he goes off to obediently kill again.
What can we say about the Jedi that has not already been said.
They are a pest and disease that should be wiped from the collective psyche of the modern world. They are deceptive and evil. They do have dark practice whilst calling their detractors ‘The Dark Side.’ I would fitting if this remnant of a more violent age would just fade away but as the latest census indicates, they are growing in numbers.
The only we can ever hope to be free of this menace is to exclude the Jedi from society. Films, Images that promote Jedi propaganda should be destroyed. There icons in the form of action figures should be crushed and melted down. Then we can all look forward to a brighter future that is free of the constraints and influences of the Jedi.
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Comment by RubySoho
Music Zone
Thought Zone
Alternatively, we could request that the Jedi respect the beliefs of others and do not attempt to convert them to Jedi. Or even worse, do not attempt to dictate that the law adheres to what Jedi believe to be true, despite the overwhelming lack of evidence.
If only the the Jedi could be made to realise that, just as they are free to practise what they believe is right, then others should be granted the same rights. Maybe then, we would live in world where there is no violence committed in the name of Yoda.
Comment by Damo
For the Sake of Argument
My Apologetics
That would be the Path to the Dark Side
No they have to go.
They have dangerous ideas.
Comment by RubySoho
Music Zone
Thought Zone
Your attempt is satire is failing.
Comment by Damo
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My Apologetics
You must have issues.
Must be that you don't that I come from the planet.
Who Gives a Crap.
But Please tell me more about the Jedi.
Comment by RubySoho
Music Zone
Thought Zone
?????
Comment by Damo
For the Sake of Argument
My Apologetics
It just near the planet: Jeez get a life.
But please tell me more about the Jedi as I am so fascinated about you have to say.
Comment by Mountain Fog
Infognito
FOR THEY ARE DIFFERENT!
FOR THEY ARE STRANGE OF CUSTOM!!
FOR THEY WORSHIP FALSE IDOLS!!
FOR IT IS WRITTEN...
WITHIN THEIR NAME...
JED...
DIE....
ergo, kill all Jedi...
I'm trying to tap into that part of the universe that the extreme right neocon inhabit....I think it is working somehow!
What is the secret to this new found talent of mine?
Just grab a few lines of the old testament...apply liberally and inappropriately...spice with hate...and away ya go!
and before we know it, we have a new world order...
tee hee...
fog
Comment by Damo
For the Sake of Argument
My Apologetics
Thanks for comments.
The Sith will thank you.
But you forgot to add 'metaphorically speaking'
Comment by Mountain Fog
Infognito
Comment by Damo
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My Apologetics
The Jedi are everywhere.
Comment by tlcorbin
Coffee Quip
A Global Citizen
Paranormal Paranormal
Is Why
Alaska Chronicle
Sleezer's World
Raven
Comment by Damo
For the Sake of Argument
My Apologetics
Only LIght Goldern Brown.
The Emperor would be pleased.
Comment by JoshZ
A Simple Christian
Comment by Damo
For the Sake of Argument
My Apologetics
I have always wondered what Order 65 is?
I also wondered what would happen if order 6 was issued by a man with a stutter.
Comment by JoshZ
A Simple Christian
My theory it was something along the lines of
"And get some soothers."
Oh, and there are many lines in Star Wars that become hilarious if they are substituted for the words "pants" or "my pants"
For example
"There is a deep disturbance in my pants."
"I know my master, I have felt it."
JZ
Comment by Damo
For the Sake of Argument
My Apologetics
Ah the joy of having a real deep conversation about such an important issue.
I wonder what other words can be interchanged.
I may be able to purge the Wookies also.
They really bug me.
But no where near as much as Ja Ja Binks.
What ever a 'Pasting' is he needs one.
Comment by Miswanderlust
Killer Beats
Ramble On
Hipnotherapy
Mis
Comment by Damo
For the Sake of Argument
My Apologetics
I wish I had seen your post when you posted it.
That video is one of the funniest things I have ever seen.
"Don't talk back to Dark Vader or he will get you."
Classic.
(There is no shame in a shameless plug) we all do it.
Comment by Mountain Fog
Infognito
now we are talking...it must be slow and gruesome, and done in front of an indifferent audience, sipping lattes as they cackle inanities, completely ignoring the screams and squeels of that monstrosity Ya Ya Binks, as he slowly disappears into a vat of chemical solvent!!
How I LOATHE that idiotic, annoying, imbecilic cartoon character!
The moment that ludicrous image opened its mouth I wanted to storm the projectionist box, rip the roll off the projector, and throw it into the gutter out front of the theatre and burn it!
Then, write a poisonous stream of vitriole to Lucas, for being such a money grubbing cinematic whore!
I'm no 'trekkie', no Star Wars fanatic, however, I do enjoy well produced special effects, and science fiction, BUT, I'd bloody well blow my brains out before I pay to see a kiddie tot cartoon show for four year olds!!!
and while we are at it...remove the wookie's voice box, he I will allow to live as long as he constantly kills, WITHOUT that idiotic noise, however, the little furry teddy bears, will ALL have to be BURNT!!
there...glad I got that off my chest...
fog
Comment by Damo
For the Sake of Argument
My Apologetics
Your storm trouper uniform is ready.
You have been assigned to Ja Ja Binks detail.
Comment by Autoloud
Warm and fuzzies
Master Yoda
Comment by JohnDoe
Film & TV on DVD
You had me laughing throughout.
Love the thought you have put into this....wish I had more time to explain why your conclusions are an alternate perspective to mine...so i will just say that the answer lies in the Samurai code of honour and the warrior philosophy of the ancients.
I feel I will have to return later and expand on that...till next time, may the schwartz be with you
Comment by Damo
For the Sake of Argument
My Apologetics
or should I say the evil Master Yoda.
It seems that we are at war with each other over the collect minds of the universe.
May your force strike my immovable object everytime.
Comment by Damo
For the Sake of Argument
My Apologetics
Thanks for your comments.
Samurai code huh?
Now that is going to really confuse this blistering attack on the Jedi. You have committed the crime of bringing thought to the debate,
May an Immoveable object always block The Force.
Comment by The wonderful Peter Yang
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Comment by Damo
For the Sake of Argument
My Apologetics
Thanks for your comments.
Perhaps you want to be the galactic Switzerland in this fight to the death.
You sit back and watch the unstoppability of The Force hit the immovability of the Objection.